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    Corton Charlemagne (4 Mar 2013): (at a dinner sponsored by Faiveley with Bernard Hervet) not oxidized and a very impressive wine at this point [Don Cornwell]
    Corton Charlemagne (Jul 2014): not oxidized [R Younger]
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    Bienvenues-Batard Montrachet (14 Feb 2015): showing a deep orange-golden hue and incipient aromas of premature oxidation [William Kelley]
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Friday, November 10

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    more dilute. OnceThe Chevalier Montrachets, once you excluded the three Chevaliersbottles with obvious defects, the remaining wines were excellent,
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    as the Montrachets.Montrachets were. The Batards
    Over the two nights,8 of 62 bottles were either advanced or oxidized (12.9%). The 12.9% total incidence is relatively close to the record low incidence of 12.68% for the 2007 vintage and 12.70% for the 2004 vintage. However, the 2009 tastings included nine bottles closed with DIAM, none of which were advanced or oxidized. If you consider only the 53 bottles with conventional cork closings, the advanced or oxidized percentage rises to 15%.
    2008 VINTAGE ASSESSMENT DINNERS -- AN UNEVEN VINTAGE WITH SOME GREAT WINES BUT ALSO BIG DISAPPOINTMENTS
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    2009 VINTAGE ASSESSMENT DINNERS -- A HUGE UPSIDE SURPRISE
    The 12th annual Vintage Assessment and Premox Check dinners were held on March 1 and March 15, 20017. The format was slightly different this year and we tasted 62 wines from the 2009 vintage in two nights. Except for the Chablis, the wines from 2009 far exceeded my initial expectations. When the Cote de Beaune wines were released, I thought most of them were excessively sweet (I frequently used the descriptor of “7-Up”). As a result, I cellared very few 2009s. But the Cote de Beaune wines we tasted, for the most part, far exceeded my initial expectations. The level of improvement was even more profound than what we experienced with the 2006 vintage.
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    2008 VINTAGE ASSESSMENT DINNERS -- AN UNEVEN VINTAGE WITH SOME GREAT WINES BUT ALSO BIG DISAPPOINTMENTS
    The 11th annual Vintage Assessment and Premox Check Dinners were held on February 9, February 25 and March 8, 2016. This year the vintage was 2008. The first dinner was held on February 9, 2016 and we tasted 29 bottles of the top 2008 Chablis, Meursault, and Corton Charlemagnes, plus one 46 year old Leroy white. See the notes here. 2008 Vintage-Night One The Chablis flight was one of the most impressive in some years. The Meursaults were also outstanding, but overall didn't quite reach the lavel of the 2007 Meursault flights. The Corton Charlemagnes performaed well. There were a few exotic aromas and a couple of wines with obvious botrytis, but overall things seemed pretty impressive.
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    The bad news for 2009 was that, in my judgment, 2009 is the least impressive vintage of Chablis that I’ve ever tasted – far worse than the 2007s or the 2005s (but see the post-script above on how well the top 2007 Chablis have turned out at age 10.) The 2009 Chablis were extremely thin and mostly lacking in Chablis character. In my opinion, it’s a vintage of Chablis to avoid.
    But in contrast to the disappointing Chablis, the flight of Meursault Perrieres was, when considered as a whole, the most consistent flight of Meursault Perrieres, from top to bottom, that we’ve ever had. Excluding the Lafon Charmes, the wines were uniformly very impressive. The Corton flight, while it had a greater range of variation, was also excellent. The wines were bigger bodied and richer than the Meursaults, as you would expect. But they were surprisingly classic in style compared to how sweet and 7-Up like many of the wines tasted like at the time of release.
    The second night's dinner consisted of grand cru wines from Montrachet. The clear vineyard “winner” on night two was Montrachet, where there were zero premox issues and every bottle was excellent. In Bienvenues and Criots, the wines were generally lighter and more dilute. Once you excluded the three Chevaliers with obvious defects, the remaining wines were excellent, though not quite as excellent overall as the Montrachets. The Batards were generally nice wines, but they clearly weren’t as impressive as the Montrachets and Chevaliers in 2009. Continuing the theme from night one, being upslope (i.e. MP, Corton Charlemagne, Montrachet and Chevalier) seems to have made a huge difference in 2009.
    Over the two nights,8 of 62 bottles were either advanced or oxidized (12.9%). The 12.9% total incidence is relatively close to the record low incidence of 12.68% for the 2007 vintage and 12.70% for the 2004 vintage. However, the 2009 tastings included nine bottles closed with DIAM, none of which were advanced or oxidized. If you consider only the 53 bottles with conventional cork closings, the advanced or oxidized percentage rises to 15%.

    2008 VINTAGE ASSESSMENT DINNERS -- AN UNEVEN VINTAGE WITH SOME GREAT WINES BUT ALSO BIG DISAPPOINTMENTS
    The 11th annual Vintage Assessment and Premox Check Dinners were held on February 9, February 25 and March 8, 2016. This year the vintage was 2008. The first dinner was held on February 9, 2016 and we tasted 29 bottles of the top 2008 Chablis, Meursault, and Corton Charlemagnes, plus one 46 year old Leroy white. See the notes here. 2008 Vintage-Night One The Chablis flight was one of the most impressive in some years. The Meursaults were also outstanding, but overall didn't quite reach the lavel of the 2007 Meursault flights. The Corton Charlemagnes performaed well. There were a few exotic aromas and a couple of wines with obvious botrytis, but overall things seemed pretty impressive.
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    A POSTSCRIPT ON THE 2007 CHABLIS --
    (November 2017) We tasted the 2007 Chablis on night one of 2007 vintage tasting in 2015. In my summary of the tasting below, I wrote: "We all agreed that the 2007 Chablis notably under-performed versus the early very laudatory reviews which suggested that 2007 is a classic vintage. The wines did not improve over the course of the evening either." I had purchased quite a stock of 2007 Dauvissat, Raveneau and Fevre in the expectation that they would be wonderful classic chablis. But after our tasting I was so underwhelmed that I resolved to send most of my stock off to auction.
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    A SIGNIFICANT SHARE OF WHITE BURGUNDY IN 2014 IS NOW BEING BOTTLED UNDER DIAM CLOSURES; SOME PRODUCERS ARE INCREASING CORK DIAMETER AND USING LONGER CORKS
    Beginning with the 2007 vintage, several producers have abandoned natural cork and switched to DIAM closures. With the 2014 whites now being released, switching to DIAM closures from natural cork has become a strong trend and there is now a significant amount of the white burgundy market where the bottles have DIAM cork closures.
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    STAY TUNED FOR FURTHER DEVELOPMENTS....
    2009 VINTAGE ASSESSMENT DINNERS -- A HUGE UPSIDE SURPRISE
    The 12th annual Vintage Assessment and Premox Check dinners were held on March 1 and March 15, 20017. The format was slightly different this year and we tasted 62 wines from the 2009 vintage in two nights. Except for the Chablis, the wines from 2009 far exceeded my initial expectations. When the Cote de Beaune wines were released, I thought most of them were excessively sweet (I frequently used the descriptor of “7-Up”). As a result, I cellared very few 2009s. But the Cote de Beaune wines we tasted, for the most part, far exceeded my initial expectations. The level of improvement was even more profound than what we experienced with the 2006 vintage.
    The bad news for 2009 was that, in my judgment, 2009 is the least impressive vintage of Chablis that I’ve ever tasted – far worse than the 2007s or the 2005s (but see the post-script above on how well the top 2007 Chablis have turned out at age 10.) The 2009 Chablis were extremely thin and mostly lacking in Chablis character. In my opinion, it’s a vintage of Chablis to avoid.
    But in contrast to the disappointing Chablis, the flight of Meursault Perrieres was, when considered as a whole, the most consistent flight of Meursault Perrieres, from top to bottom, that we’ve ever had. Excluding the Lafon Charmes, the wines were uniformly very impressive. The Corton flight, while it had a greater range of variation, was also excellent. The wines were bigger bodied and richer than the Meursaults, as you would expect. But they were surprisingly classic in style compared to how sweet and 7-Up like many of the wines tasted like at the time of release.

    2008 VINTAGE ASSESSMENT DINNERS -- AN UNEVEN VINTAGE WITH SOME GREAT WINES BUT ALSO BIG DISAPPOINTMENTS
    The 11th annual Vintage Assessment and Premox Check Dinners were held on February 9, February 25 and March 8, 2016. This year the vintage was 2008. The first dinner was held on February 9, 2016 and we tasted 29 bottles of the top 2008 Chablis, Meursault, and Corton Charlemagnes, plus one 46 year old Leroy white. See the notes here. 2008 Vintage-Night One The Chablis flight was one of the most impressive in some years. The Meursaults were also outstanding, but overall didn't quite reach the lavel of the 2007 Meursault flights. The Corton Charlemagnes performaed well. There were a few exotic aromas and a couple of wines with obvious botrytis, but overall things seemed pretty impressive.
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    A POSTSCRIPT ON THE 2007 CHABLIS --
    (November 2017) We tasted the 2007 Chablis on night one of 2007 vintage tasting in 2015. In my summary of the tasting below, I wrote: "We all agreed that the 2007 Chablis notably under-performed versus the early very laudatory reviews which suggested that 2007 is a classic vintage. The wines did not improve over the course of the evening either." I had purchased quite a stock of 2007 Dauvissat, Raveneau and Fevre in the expectation that they would be wonderful classic chablis. But after our tasting I was so underwhelmed that I resolved to send most of my stock off to auction.
    Luckily for me, I never got around to collecting those wines from their various storage locations in order to sell them. What I've discovered over the last six months is that the 2007 grand crus from Dauvissat and Raveneau (along with Dauvissat Forest and Raveneau MDT) have made the unexpected transition from ugly ducklings into graceful swans. Dauvissat Preuses and Forest and Raveneau Valmur and Blanchots are my favorites today, but all of the 2007s I've opened lately have been very enjoyable. I haven't re-tried any of the Fevre Chablis yet but they will be coming home next.

    A SIGNIFICANT SHARE OF WHITE BURGUNDY IN 2014 IS NOW BEING BOTTLED UNDER DIAM CLOSURES; SOME PRODUCERS ARE INCREASING CORK DIAMETER AND USING LONGER CORKS
    Beginning with the 2007 vintage, several producers have abandoned natural cork and switched to DIAM closures. With the 2014 whites now being released, switching to DIAM closures from natural cork has become a strong trend and there is now a significant amount of the white burgundy market where the bottles have DIAM cork closures.
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    Another trend that seems to be occurring among producers that continue to use natural cork is the use of longer corks (with longer bottle necks to insure a tight seal along the full length of the cork) and slightly increasing the diameter of the corks. The standard cork diameter employed in burgundy is 24 mm. Some producers, such as Sauzet, Niellon and Colin-Morey, began using 25 mm diameter corks in the same bottles (starting with the 2010 vintage) as a means of obtaining a tighter seal. This requires both greater compression force to initially seal the bottles and greater extraction force to remove them..
    STAY TUNED FOR FURTHER DEVELOPMENTS....
    2009 VINTAGE ASSESSMENT DINNERS -- A HUGE UPSIDE SURPRISE
    2008 VINTAGE ASSESSMENT DINNERS -- AN UNEVEN VINTAGE WITH SOME GREAT WINES BUT ALSO BIG DISAPPOINTMENTS
    The 11th annual Vintage Assessment and Premox Check Dinners were held on February 9, February 25 and March 8, 2016. This year the vintage was 2008. The first dinner was held on February 9, 2016 and we tasted 29 bottles of the top 2008 Chablis, Meursault, and Corton Charlemagnes, plus one 46 year old Leroy white. See the notes here. 2008 Vintage-Night One The Chablis flight was one of the most impressive in some years. The Meursaults were also outstanding, but overall didn't quite reach the lavel of the 2007 Meursault flights. The Corton Charlemagnes performaed well. There were a few exotic aromas and a couple of wines with obvious botrytis, but overall things seemed pretty impressive.
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